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Sandra J Bishop

Parents:

• Birth*: Sandra J Bishop was born in 1949 at Brighton, Sussex, England^B.¹
• She was the daughter of Leslie Albert Bishop and Eileen Ethel Harris.
• Married Name: As of 1975, her married name was Jadecki.

Gladys Florence Selsby

• Birth*: Gladys Florence Selsby was born on 7 July 1912 at Burgess Hill, Sussex, England^B.
• Marriage*: Gladys Florence Selsby married George Edwin Harris, son of David Harris and Ethel Louisa Taylor, in 1938 at Cuckfield, Sussex, England^B.¹
• Married Name: As of 1938, her married name was Harris.
• Death*: Gladys Florence Selsby died on 24 March 1993 at Brighton, Sussex, England^B, at age 80.

Ellen Wise

• Birth*: Ellen Wise was born circa 1820 at Hailsham, Sussex, England.¹
• Marriage*: Ellen Wise married James Wilkins, son of Joseph Wilkins and Mary Hunt, in 1840 at Hailsham, Sussex, England.²
• Married Name: As of 1840, her married name was Wilkins.
• Anecdote*: Notes from RD Wilkins. 28 Oct 2014:
  Ellen Wise married James Wilkins of Eastbourne a labourer, Banns were called in Eastbourne and Hailsham. In 1851 James inherited his father’s Public House - The Crown Inn but sold / signed it over to his younger Brother Walter. In 1852 James and Ellen emigrated to Australia by unassisted passage aboard the Banshee, unfortunately their first child Gift aged 2 died during the voyage. Members of the Wilkins family still reside in Eastbourne (including the author RD Wilkins) whilst James and Ellen’s line continues in Australia, see Ancestry Worldwide. Fanny named her third girl Gift Ann in 1853 providing further proof that the girls were sisters.
• Residence*: On 30 March 1851 Ellen Wise and James Wilkins lived at Eastbourne, Sussex, England^B, with daughter Gift.¹
• Emigration*: Ellen Wise and James Wilkins emigrated in 1852 to Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, arriving February 1853 at Port Melbourne on the ship "Banshee". Their Daughter “Gift“ 2 years old died, she was born 4th July 1850. She died at sea according to the passenger list. She was named Gift after 9 years of miscarriages.
• Death*: Ellen Wise died on 4 August 1894 at Footscray, Victoria, Australia.
• Burial*: Ellen Wise was buried after 4 August 1894 at Footscray Cemetery, Footscray, Victoria, Australia.

Henry Hollibone

Parents:

• Birth*: Henry Hollibone was born in 1806 at Willingdon, Sussex, England^B.¹
• He was the son of John Hollibone and Elizabeth Manser.
• Baptism: Henry Hollibone was baptized on 3 August 1806 at Willingdon, Sussex, England^B.
• Marriage*: Henry Hollibone married Susanna Wilkins, daughter of Joseph Wilkins and Mary Hunt, on 16 October 1831 at Eastbourne, Sussex, England^B, Henry is "of Willingdon."²
• Occupation*: Henry Hollibone was a farmer of 160 acres employing 2 men on 7 April 1861.¹
• Residence*: On 7 April 1861 Henry Hollibone and Susanna Wilkins lived at Hare Beating, White Ditch Road, Hailsham, Sussex, England.¹
• Death*: Henry Hollibone died on 28 December 1876 at Hailsham, Sussex, England. "age 70 years."³
  

William Knight

• Marriage*: William Knight married Sarah Moor on 26 November 1745 at East Dean, Sussex, England^B.¹
• Marriage*: William Knight married Lydia Taylor on 11 July 1799 at St Mary's, Eastbourne, Sussex, England^B, William is a widower.¹
• Will*: William Knight left a will made on 5 April 1809 at Eastbourne, Sussex, England^B.
• Will/Adm Transcript*: In the name of God Amen I William Knight of Eastbourn in the County of Sussex schoolmaster duly considering that it is appointed for all men to die and being mindful of the uncertainty of that great change when it shall please God to call me hence do make this my last Will and Testament of and concerning all my real and personal estate being copyhold the same having been surrendered to the use of my Will which it hath pleased Almighty God to bless me with in such manner as herein after is mentioned.
  First I give and bequeath to Lydia my wife the sum of twenty pounds and to be paid her within a month after my decease and ten pounds per annum to be paid her by Thomas and Mary Rollison out of the property that shall be here after mentioned and sixteen pounds per annum to be paid her be Joseph and Susanna Wilkins out of the property that shall be here after mentioned during her life with her living in the parlour and the chambers over the same and pantry being a part of the messuage or tenement that we reside in with the furniture of the two said rooms the furniture to be at her use so long as she continues in the same which are the register stove, pier glass, cupboard, pictures and carpet. If the said Lydia Knight should? marry (the above is void) she shall leave the said parlour, chamber &c and instead of the twenty six pounds per annum. She shall have her thirds of the rents of Thos and Mary Rollison and of Jas and Susanna Wilkins after the repairs and taxes paid.
  Second I give unto Thomas and Mary Rollison his wife all that messuage or tenement and two small gardens that I now occupy with the remainder part of the furniture unless it shall be wanted to pay my debts a waggon house and a seven stall stable adjoining the same and the garden to the eastward to the width of the said messuage or tenement – two small gardens waggon house and stable. After the decease of the said Thomas and Mary Rollison I give the aforesaid premises &c unto William Rollison the second son of Thomas and Mary Rollison and his heirs. If the said Willm Rollison has no heirs then unto his brother Henry Rollison and his heirs - .... the said Henry Rollison has no heir then it shall go unto his eldest male nephew of the name of Rollison. Likewise I give unto Sarah Rollison the daughter of Thos and Mary Rollison twenty crown pieces which I have by me.
  Third I give unto Joseph and Susanna Wilkins his wife all that house shop and bake house that he rents of me with the messuage or tenement adjoining his house and shop. Likewise the slaughter house and stable and that part of the old Play House that is between his house and the seven stall stable with the garden to the whole width of the premises and the two small gardens that join the bake house. After the decease of Jos Wilkins and Susanna his wife I give all that house, shop and bake house and garden that joins the bake house to the southward and the yard for ... within the fence unto Mary Wilkins and Jane Wilkins her sister as joint heirs daughters of the said Jos and Susanna Wilkins and there heirs, if there should be no heir, then unto the eldest daughter of Joseph Wilkins there brother. After the death of Jos Wilkins and Susanna his wife I give unto Joseph Wilkins there second son all that messuage or tenement adjoining the house and shop with the slaughter house, stable and garden that joins the same, and the garden to the width of the whole of his fathers premises. And after the decease of Jos Wilkins ... ... I give unto his son Joseph Wilkins and his heirs all that messuage or tenement slaughter house stable and gardens the whole which I have given to her father. That part of the Old Play House that is between the house and shop and the seven stall stable – with that part of the yard to the width of it I give unto Thomas Wilkins the youngest son of Jos and Susanna Wilkins after there decease and to the eldest son of Thos Wilkins after his decease – if the said Thomas Wilkins has no heir then it shall go to the youngest son of Joseph Wilkins and Mary his wife.
  I do hereby nominate constitute and appoint Mr Thos White of Eastbourn builder one executor for which I give him five guineas – and Thos Rollison senr of Willingdon the other executor and after my just debts and funeral expences are paid the money that is left (if any) to be equally divided between George Wilkins the son of Jos and Susanna Wilkins and Thos Rollison, John Rollison and James Rollison the sons of Thos and Mary Rollison. Of this my Will hereby revoking all former Wills and request by me at any time heretofore made and declaring this only to be my last Will and Testament. In testimony where of I the said William Knight the testator have set my hand and seal this fifth day of April in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and nine. W Knight
  Signed sealed published and declared by the said William Knight the testator as and for his last Will and Testament in the presence of us who at his request in his presence and in the presence of each other have subscribed our names as witnesses here to. Stephen Iggulden; William Hyland; Charles Reed
  
  22^nd March 1810. Then were sworn Thomas White and Thomas Rollison the executors in this Will named to whom was committed the burthen of the execution thereof & sworn also that the goods chatels and credits the said late deced do not amount in value unto three hundred pounds. By me ER Raynes, Surrogate
  NOTE: The above was taken from a poor photocopy. In the accompanying admin the appearer clearly signs herself as ‘Mary ROLLASON’. DW
  Transcribed from a photocopy by Dave Woolven, 2 Aspen Way, Malpas Park, Newport, South Wales. NP20 6LB Tel 01633 858 359 7 June 2007
  Transcribed for Mr P Sands, 10 Fletching Rd, Hampden Park, Eastbourne, East Sussex. BN22 9DU
  
  Archdeaconry of Lewes in the Diocese of Chichester. On the fourth day of May in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and ten.
  Appeared personally Mary Rollason the wife of Thomas Rollason of Willington in the County of Sussex shepherd and made oath that she hath looked at the paper writing hereunto annexed purporting to be the last Will and Testament of William Knight late of Eastbourne in the County of Sussex schoolmaster deceased, that she on or about the thirty first day of October last was present with the testator and saw him obliterate the words “unto Mary Wilkins and Jane Wilkins her sister as joint heirs” by drawing his pen and ink over those words, which now appear to be obliterated in the said Will. And this appearer further saith that she was present and saw the said testator William Knight write the Codicil on the back of the said Will and saw him sign the same and that the name “W Knight” subscribed thereto is his proper hand writing and signature. Mary Rollason
  Same day the said Mary Rollason was duly sworn to the truth of the above. Before me W Gwynne, Sur
  Transcribed from a photocopy by Dave Woolven, 2 Aspen Way, Malpas Park, Newport, South Wales. NP20 6LB Tel 01633 858 359 7 June 2007
  Transcribed for Mr P Sands, 10 Fletching Rd, Hampden Park, Eastbourne, East Sussex. BN22 9DU.
• Burial*: William Knight was buried on 15 November 1809 at St Mary's, Eastbourne, Sussex, England^B.²
• Probate: His estate was probated on 22 March 1810 at Archdeaconry of Lewes, Sussex, England, value did not exceed 300 pounds.

Sarah Moor

• Marriage*: Sarah Moor married William Knight on 26 November 1745 at East Dean, Sussex, England^B.¹
• Married Name: As of 26 November 1745, her married name was Knight.

Mary Knight

Parents:

• Baptism*: Mary Knight was baptized on 27 February 1759 at St Mary's, Eastbourne, Sussex, England^B.¹
• She was the daughter of William Knight and Sarah Moor.
• Marriage*: Mary Knight married Thomas Rollison on 20 April 1789 at Eastbourne, Sussex, England^B, Thomas is "of Willingdon."²
• Married Name: As of 20 April 1789, her married name was Rollison.
• (Witness) Will: Mary Knight is mentioned in the will of William Knight dated 5 April 1809 at Eastbourne, Sussex, England^B.

Richard Knight

Parents:

• Baptism*: Richard Knight was baptized on 4 August 1748 at St Simon & St Jude, East Dean, Sussex, England^B.¹
• He was the son of William Knight and Sarah Moor.
• Burial*: Richard Knight was buried on 7 April 1752 at St Mary's, Eastbourne, Sussex, England^B, "son of William and Sarah."²

William Knight

Parents:

• Baptism*: William Knight was baptized on 9 June 1746 at St Simon & St Jude, East Dean, Sussex, England^B.
• He was the son of William Knight and Sarah Moor.
• Burial*: William Knight was buried on 22 November 1780 at St Mary's, Eastbourne, Sussex, England^B.¹

Lydia Taylor

• Marriage*: Lydia Taylor married William Knight on 11 July 1799 at St Mary's, Eastbourne, Sussex, England^B, William is a widower.¹
• Married Name: As of 11 July 1799, her married name was Knight.

Thomas Rollison

• Marriage*: Thomas Rollison married Mary Knight, daughter of William Knight and Sarah Moor, on 20 April 1789 at Eastbourne, Sussex, England^B, Thomas is "of Willingdon."¹
• (Witness) Will: Thomas Rollison is mentioned in the will of William Knight dated 5 April 1809 at Eastbourne, Sussex, England^B.

Joseph Wilkins

Parents:

• Birth*: Joseph Wilkins was born circa 1855 at Victoria, Australia.
• He was the son of James Wilkins and Ellen Wise.
• Death*: Joseph Wilkins died before 1896.

Emma Wilkins

Parents:

• Birth*: Emma Wilkins was born in 1857 at Dunolly, Victoria, Australia.
• She was the daughter of James Wilkins and Ellen Wise.
• Marriage*: Emma Wilkins married Walter Hollibone, son of Henry Hollibone and Susanna Wilkins, in 1876 at Victoria, Australia.
• Married Name: As of 1876, her married name was Hollibone.
• Death*: Emma Wilkins died on 7 April 1931 at Kew, Victoria, Australia.

Frederick Wilkins

Frederick Wilkins and Elizabeth Hannah Snape at their wedding 1906.
Photo courtesy of Peter Simpson 2013.

Parents:

• Birth*: Frederick Wilkins was born in 1862 at Gooramadda, Victoria, Australia.
• He was the son of James Wilkins and Ellen Wise.
• Marriage*: Frederick Wilkins married Elizabeth Hannah Snape in 1906 at Cootamundra, New South Wales, Australia.
• Death*: Frederick Wilkins died on 6 March 1946 at Herald Street, Cheltenham, Victoria, Australia. He died of Broncho-pneumonia/Cerebal Thrombis.
• Burial*: Frederick Wilkins was buried on 7 March 1946 at New Cheltenham Cemetery, Cheltenham, Victoria, Australia.

Alice Wilkins

Parents:

• Birth*: Alice Wilkins was born on 18 August 1864 at Gooramadda, Victoria, Australia.
• She was the daughter of James Wilkins and Ellen Wise.
• Marriage*: Alice Wilkins married William Hollibone Birch, son of William Birch and Susannah Hollibone, on 26 December 1882 at Rutherglen, Victoria, Australia.
• Married Name: As of 26 December 1882, her married name was Birch.
• (Witness) Will: Alice Wilkins is mentioned in the will of Susannah Hollibone dated 4 October 1910 at Lewes, Sussex, England^B.
• Death*: Alice Wilkins died in 1938 at Kew, Victoria, Australia.
• Burial*: Alice Wilkins was buried in 1938 at Box Hill Cemetery, Victoria, Australia.

Walter Hollibone

Parents:

• Birth*: Walter Hollibone was born in 1851 at Willingdon, Sussex, England^B.
• He was the son of Henry Hollibone and Susanna Wilkins.
• Marriage*: Walter Hollibone married Emma Wilkins, daughter of James Wilkins and Ellen Wise, in 1876 at Victoria, Australia.
• Death*: Walter Hollibone died on 19 August 1929 at Daylesford, Victoria, Australia.

Elizabeth Hannah Snape

• Birth*: Elizabeth Hannah Snape was born in 1884 at Mudgee, New South Wales, Australia.
• Marriage*: Elizabeth Hannah Snape married Frederick Wilkins, son of James Wilkins and Ellen Wise, in 1906 at Cootamundra, New South Wales, Australia.
• Married Name: As of 1906, her married name was Wilkins.
• Death*: Elizabeth Hannah Snape died in 1958 at Australia.

William Hollibone Birch

Photo courtesy of Peter Simpson 2013:
c1889 William Hollibone Birch and Alice Wilkins opened a butcher shop in Footscray near Melbourne

Parents:

• Birth*: William Hollibone Birch was born on 6 December 1860 at Hailsham, Sussex, England.
• He was the son of William Birch and Susannah Hollibone.
• Marriage*: William Hollibone Birch married Alice Wilkins, daughter of James Wilkins and Ellen Wise, on 26 December 1882 at Rutherglen, Victoria, Australia.
• (Witness) Will: William Hollibone Birch is mentioned in the will of Susannah Hollibone dated 4 October 1910 at Lewes, Sussex, England^B.
• Death*: William Hollibone Birch died on 4 August 1925 at Footscray, Victoria, Australia, at age 64.

Jane Hollibone

Parents:

• Baptism*: Jane Hollibone was baptized on 23 January 1832 at Willingdon, Sussex, England^B.
• She was the daughter of Henry Hollibone and Susanna Wilkins.
• Burial*: Jane Hollibone was buried on 29 January 1832 at Willingdon, Sussex, England^B.

John Hollibone

Parents:

• Baptism*: John Hollibone was baptized on 9 November 1832 at Willingdon, Sussex, England^B.
• He was the son of Henry Hollibone and Susanna Wilkins.
• Burial*: John Hollibone was buried on 11 November 1832 at Willingdon, Sussex, England^B.

Henry Hollibone

Parents:

• Birth*: Henry Hollibone was born on 28 January 1834 at Willingdon, Sussex, England^B.
• He was the son of Henry Hollibone and Susanna Wilkins.
• Baptism: Henry Hollibone was baptized on 5 April 1835 at Willingdon, Sussex, England^B.
• Marriage*: Henry Hollibone married Mary Ann Edwards, daughter of Charles Edwards and Bridget McCann, on 10 September 1863 at Gooramadda, Victoria, Australia.
• Death*: Henry Hollibone died on 19 August 1881 at One-tree near Corowa, Corowa, New South Wales, Australia, at age 47. Died of a ruptured liver from a sawmilling accident.

Susannah Hollibone

Parents:

• Birth*: Susannah Hollibone was born in 1837 at Sussex, England.
• She was the daughter of Henry Hollibone and Susanna Wilkins.
• Baptism: Susannah Hollibone was baptized on 21 May 1837 at Willingdon, Sussex, England^B.
• Marriage*: Susannah Hollibone married William Birch on 8 April 1858 at St Mary's, Hailsham, Sussex, England^B.
• Married Name: As of 8 April 1858, her married name was Birch.
• Will*: Susannah Hollibone left a will made on 4 October 1910 at Lewes, Sussex, England^B.
• Will/Adm Transcript*: I give all my plates linen china glass books pictures prints wearing apparel watches chains jewellery furniture and other household effects to my sister Jane Floate of Arcadia Haywards Heath Road, Haywards Heath aforesaid wife of William Thomas Floate absolutely free of all duties, And also I give to my sister Jane Floate the sum of £100 free of all duties.
  I give to my sister Mary Wilkins Bowrah of Ashford Kent wife of John Bowrah the sum of £50 free of all duties.
  I give to Alice Birch wife of my son William Hollibone Birch of Footscray ,Victoria, Australia the sum of £500 free of all duties.
  I declare that all and singular the copyhold hereditaments of which I may be seized or which I may have power to dispose by this my will shall with all convenient speed after my decease be sold by the Trustees or Trustee and in order to facilitate such sale I give and devise my said copyhold hereditaments unto and to the use of such person or persons and for such estate and estates as the Trustee or Trustees shall by deed appoint and in default of such appointed unto and to the use of the Trustee or Trustees herein before named the heirs and assigns upon trust to carry such sale into effect.
  I give devise and bequeath all and singular my freehold real estate and also, all the rest residue and remainder of my personal estate whatsoever and wheresoever of or to which I may die seized or entitled to unto the Trustee or Trustees here before named UPON TRUST that the Trustee or Trustees do and shall as soon as conveniently may be after my decease shall sell my said freehold real estate together with such parts of my said residuary personal estate as may be saleable and do and shall call in and compel payment of all such parts of my said personal estate as may consist of money or securities for money and do and shall possessed of the proceeds arising from the sale conversion and collection of my said personal estate and such parts thereof as shall consist of money (hereinafter called the residuary trust fund).
  Upon the trusts following (that is to say) As to one fifth part of the residuary trust fund UPON TRUST for my niece Annie Gough (daughter of my late sister Emily Phillips) of Little Malvern in the County of Worcester. Wife of Charles Gough absolutely if she shall survive me but if she the said Annie Gough shall die in my life time leaving a child or children who shall survive me and being male attain the age of twenty-one years or being female attain that age or marry under the age of twenty-one then UPON TRUST for such a child and children and if more than one in equal shares. But if my said niece Annie Gough shall die in my life time without leaving a child or children who shall attain a vested interest in the said one fifth part of the residuary trust fund then and in that event the said one fifth part shall go in aid and augmentation of the remaining four-fifth parts of the residuary trust funds herein after disposed of, And as to the remaining four-fifth parts of the residuary trust fund UPON TRUST for my said son William Hollibone Birch absolutely.
  Provided always and I declare that if the said William Hollibone Birch shall die in my life time leaving a child or children who shall survive me and being male attain the age of twenty-one years or being female attain that age or marry under that age then in such case the last mentioned child or children shall take (and if more than one equally between them) the parts as well original as accrued which my said son would have taken of and in the residual trust funds had he survived me.
  I declare that the Trustee or Trustees may let any hereditaments for the time being remaining unsold either from year to year for any term of years of such rents and upon such terms as the Trustee or Trustees shall think fit and may accept surrenders of leases or tenancies thereof and generally manage the same as the Trustee or Trustees shall think fit.
  I declare that every Trustee or Executor of this my Will who is or maybe of the profession of Solicitor may be employed to transact business or to do any act of whatever nature required to be done in reference to my estate and shall be entitled to charge and be paid for all professional and other charges for any business or act done by him or his firm in connection with the trust including acts which an Executor or Trustee could have done personally.
  And lastly I revoke all former wills made by me.
  IN WITNESS whereof I the said Susannah Birch the testatrix have to this my last Will and Testament contained in three sheets of paper set my hand this 4^th day of October 1910 .... Susannah Birch ....
  Signed and acknowledged by the said Susannah Birch Testatrix as and for her last Will and Testament in the presence of each other have hereunder subscribed our names as witnesses .... Albert Barnard and.... Wm Martin.
  Clerks to Messrs Blaker and Son Solicitors of Lewes.
  Executors were Reginald Blaker and Harold Montagu Blaker of Lewes
  (Transcribed by Ralph D Wilkins on 11.12.2015 from original file BLA/ACC 5902/6 located in the East Sussex Record Office, The Keep, Brighton, East Sussex.)
• Death*: Susannah Hollibone died in 1912 at Sussex, England.
• Anecdote: By 1914 final balances distributed were :-
  One fifth share to Annie Gough = £413 4s 4d
  Four fifths share to William Hollibone Birch = £2066 12s 0d.
  
  Below is a list of known investments at date of the Will, all were sold following the death of Susannah in 1912:
  13 Shares of £20 £5 paid in London County and Westminster Bank
  22 Shares of £5 fully paid in Buenos Ayres Tramway Co Ltd
  £ 90 of stock in Peruvian Corp Ltd
  150 shares of 5/- fully paid in New Kempinkote Gold Field Ltd
  £90 stock in The New York Pennsylvania and Ohio Trust
  20 x £10 shares in Hailsham Water Corp
  £100 stock in Midland Railway Co
  10 x £10 shares in West Indian and Panama Telegraph Co
  160 x 2/6d shares in The Champion Ruf Gold Mining Co
  £240 capital stock in the South Indian Railway Co
  102 x 10/- shares in Mysore Gold Mining Co
  £220 in Brazilian Bonds
  £200 in Uruguayan Bonds
  Land and cottages at Magham Down Near Hailsham (these also appear in the Will of Robert and Harriett Hollibone dated 27^th June 1867 which following Harrietts death would pass to Charles Hollibone.)

Mary Hollibone

Parents:

• Baptism*: Mary Hollibone was baptized on 18 November 1838 at Willingdon, Sussex, England^B.
• She was the daughter of Henry Hollibone and Susanna Wilkins.

Jane Hollibone

Parents:

• Birth*: Jane Hollibone was born in 1848 at Bexhill, Sussex, England^B.
• She was the daughter of Henry Hollibone and Susanna Wilkins.
• Marriage*: Jane Hollibone married William Thomas Floate circa 1870 at Sussex, England.
• Married Name: As of circa 1870, her married name was Floate.

Charles Hollibone

Parents:

• Birth*: Charles Hollibone was born in 1850 at Pevensey, Sussex, England^B.
• He was the son of Henry Hollibone and Susanna Wilkins.
• Anecdote*: He never married.
• Death*: Charles Hollibone died circa 1929.

Emily Hollibone

Parents:

• Birth*: Emily Hollibone was born in 1857 at Hailsham, Sussex, England.
• She was the daughter of Henry Hollibone and Susanna Wilkins.

William Birch

• Baptism*: William Birch was baptized on 7 March 1830 at Lee, Buckinghamshire, England.
• Marriage*: William Birch married Susannah Hollibone, daughter of Henry Hollibone and Susanna Wilkins, on 8 April 1858 at St Mary's, Hailsham, Sussex, England^B.
• Death*: William Birch died on 12 May 1860 at Hailsham, Sussex, England, at age 30.

William Thomas Floate

• Birth*: William Thomas Floate was born in 1848 at Washington, Sussex, England^B.
• Marriage*: William Thomas Floate married Jane Hollibone, daughter of Henry Hollibone and Susanna Wilkins, circa 1870 at Sussex, England.